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in libya. this is a picture of the plane that brought the bodies back to the united states. back to their families. both the president and secretary of state will speak at the ceremonies and family members will be present. u.s. ambassadors chris stevens, foreign service information management officer sean smith. and former navy seal tyrone jones and glen doerty were providing security for ambassador smith were all killed in tuesday's attack in benghazi, libya. meantime angry protests spread today throughout the muslim world including jerusalem and the west bank along gaza. u.n. peacekeepers were also attacked by protesters. no casualties reported. in tunisia protesters stormed the u.s. embassy setting fires and battling with tunisian security forces. two people were killed. another 29 injured. in all protests broke out today in at least 17 nations from north africa across the middle east to indonesia. all the demonstrators voicing outrage against that film made in the united states that ridicules the prophet mohammed. nbc's jim maceda is in that country. we hope to have him join
from both the government and the opposition, the united states is taking the next up in normalizing our commercial relationship. >> the national football league has reached an agreement to end a labor dispute with the referees. the nfl rushed to make the deal after a botched call by replacement officials decided the outcome of a nationally televised game monday night, prompting widespread outrage from fans, journalists, and the teams. you can go to democracynow.org to see our interview with sportswriter dave zirin. in sweden, the 2012 right livelihood awards have been announced to four recipients. turkish environmental activist hayrettin karaca "for a lifetime of tireless advocacy and support for the protection and stewardship of our natural world." afghan women's activist -- a u.s. scholar gene sharp -- and to britain's campaign against arms trade -- handed out annually, the right glove awards are widely known as the alternative nobel prize. those are some of the headlines. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we begin our show with a l
of the united states and i think he really did make it worse by sitting down with "the view." i love "the view," i love the show, they're all friends. i'm a big fan. but in was not the moment to sit down with "the view." that's done by mitt romney, by barack obama, by everyone else. but not this day and at this time. >> jamie rubin, there is a schedule. obviously that the campaign feels it wants to keep. they have a lot of events coming up just today. joe scarborough said this morning so meet with folks for 15 minutes. to something. what would you say about this? >> well, i come from the foreign policy side of the house and worked at the state department and the president's schedule would come up in meetings with the white house. and there's always this tension between the election calculations, the political calculations, and those in the foreign policy professionals. you know, from the standpoint of a professional, obviously you'd like to see the president engage with these crucial countries, not just our friend israel, but a lot of friends that we have in the world or as andrea put it, coun
. each of these countries representing a major national security concern for the united states. sudan gets over $2.5 billion american aid in american aid and that is just over the last four years. tanisha was the birthplace of the arab spring movement. the u.s. is providing it with regular assistance. yemen has received $620 million from america over the last four years. our own reporter, greg, has more in london. reporter: it is supposed to be a holy day of prayer. we have been watching the feeds coming in from all over the word and it is anything but that. violence wracking capital after capital. particularly in the united states. just to give you a little bit more context, as you noted, tanisha is the birthplace of the arab spring. the government ought to be more moderate. something we could depend on. in fact, we have seen extremist elements that work there. at the u.s. embassy there, as well as the nearby schools. the latest word we are getting from them is that security forces have done their jobs. over in sudan, the one-time home of osama bin laden. extremist elements thereto.
. >> the cruel irony here is that the united states is well-regarded in libya. and there's a moderate government in place. and this is clearly the actions of an isolated and very small but very vicious terrorist group. and so we've got to protect ourselves from those groups. and we've got to go after them. >> reporter: and, wolf, as i said, we're expecting momentarily a briefing background here at the state department. there are a lot of details. everyone that we talk to says that it was a very, very complex almost chaotic situation. fighting on the outside. fire on the inside. and so we expect to have more details as we go along. >> and so far we've only been told the names of chris stephens and sean smith. the other two they have not released their names yet, is that right? >> yes. they were security officials. >> not u.s. marines though? >> reporter: no. we understand were not marines. they were security personnel. >> let us know what happens at this background briefing you're about to get. and you'll update our viewers. standby for that. jill dougherty. let's go to nic robertson now in londo
there simply as a diversion. four americans died including the united states ambassador to libya chris stevens. our foreign affairs correspondent, jill dougherty, has been working her sources to get a better idea on exactly what happened. our senior international correspondent nic robertson is monitoring the search for who's responsible. and our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is keeping tabs on the u.s. military's response to what's going on as well. let's go to jill first. she's watching what's going on. jill, what's the latest over at the state department beyond the heartbreak of a top u.s. diplomat, three others killed? >> right, wolf. just in a few minutes we're expecting an update, a briefing on background by senior officials here at the state department. but for now this is what we know based on the conversations and what we are hearing from u.s. officials. tuesday night at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, a complex and highly dangerous situation. outside an anti-american protest. then a group of heavily armed militants, approximately two dozen of them, launched an attack firing ro
know one thing about him. he does not fail. let's hear it for the next president of the united states. [applause] >> thanks, sweetie. that's quite an introduction here. i got how many introductions tonight? anyone else want to offer an introduction? thank you. this really is a critical time for the country, and i think a time of choice. elections are always about choice. i think the choice is in more stark relief than most electrics. i think in part because of where the country is. i think when you have $16 trillion in debt, when you see places like europe facing fiscal calamity or crisis, while you recognize these are critical times, what you have in this country, 23 million americans out of work, 23 million. when half the kids coming out of college can't find work or work consistent with an education that includes college, think about that? this is america. what's happened? and so the president and i offered two very distinct paths. his path is one which has been not just spoken about, we've seen it. we don't have to guess what his path might look like or what he would do, because h
to the west and maturity. -- and modernity. the attacks on the united states are often tactical and the real enemy seems to be, the near enemy, seems to be the regimes in the eyes of al qaeda and other extremist groups. these enemies of god, all -- as al-qaeda defines them, are fair game. the victims of these are overwhelmed in malls -- muslims. -- overwhelmingly muslims. nobody has documented this. we should not wait for the next conquest to tell us about this going on in the arab world. one of the most discouraging things i have read in the last decade was this quote from virginia muslims who recruited by the taliban were arrested in pakistan before they could do that. one of them said we're not terrorists, we are jihad tests. adests. we need to organize an international effort to buttress norms against the killing of civilians on any pretext. i would go for a fifth camp geneva convention. i think we need to codify the new rules of war and define terrorism as crimes against humanity. by way of taking some of the revolutionary glamour out of the jihad and putting faces on the victim's and c
different images here, offering comfort to the families, saying that the united states despite the images of violence will remain engaged around the world, that justice will be done. but also in the case of each of these men, making the point that they essentially fell on a battlefield, in service of the country, and in service of their friends. and, of course, this is what the fallen do, don't they? you learn so many times through the years that when men and women fight in battle, they fight for each other. and these men were fighting for libya, they were fighting for the people of libya, and the president, i think, made it very clear in his message, he wanted to sound that theme, that they served for a reason for this country and for countries around the world, that this is the symbol of u.s. diplomacy. >> barbara, let's listen to that now. >> four americans, four patriots, they loved this country and they chose to serve it and served it well. they had a mission, and they believed in it. they knew the danger, and they accepted it. they didn't simply embrace the american ideal, they live
the united states as the move towards a democracy. the obama administration has said it is considering using sanctions against myanmar, also known as burma. this is one hour and 15 minutes. >> well, welcome to all of you. this is my first official of bent as the new president. what a thrill, frankly, to be here with you. her first visit to the united states in 20 years. no. a 40 years. and she chose to come to the institute for her first public address. we have wonderful partners in the society. and the blue moon a society. we have a great relationship with the state department of secretary clinton today. a number of her colleagues are here. kurt campbell. in addition, i would like to particularly recognize a couple of our board members. without her, i do not think this event would have occurred. i would like to thank her for coming. i like to turn things over. [applause] >> i join with jim. i want to tell you that this is an extremely large and important a pleasure that we have in welcoming all of you here today. it is an event in honor of remarkable individual. we welcome you and your dele
. the following month the united states announced that u.s. drone strike had killed a libyan who was the second ranking guy in al qaeda central. a guy who went by the moniker al libi which means the libyan. the same group in benghazi responded immediately within 24 hours. they launched another attack that they filmed al qaeda-style, and they ultimately claimed credit for it. this time their target was the u.s. consulate in benghazi, the same u.s. consulate where christopher stevens was killed two nights ago. they hit the consulate with an ied, turned the attack into an al qaeda-style video type of propaganda. the same group hit a british envoy in benghazi with a car bomb. it had the hallmarks of al qaeda inspiration or al qaeda training. they filmed the incident, dropped leaflets. they tried to take as much credit as possible. then on the morning of september 11th, this week, al qaeda central put out a video calling for attacks to avenge that same killing of al libi the group in benghazi had avenged before when it was first announced he was killed. by that night, the night of september 11th thi
be a movement for the united states to withdraw to fortress america, to renounce our -- our -- our service to the world in helping these countries achieve the same democracy and freedom that our forefathers strived for? i do not mean to use his death as any kind of political agenda, but i think my friend and i remember him well enough to know that the worst outcome of this tragedy wod be for the united states to withdraw. in fact, i am confident that if he were here, he would be urging us to get right back in, get -- bring these extremists to justice and press on with the democracy and freedom that the people of libya deserve and have earned at great loss of blood and treasure. mr. lieberman: mr. president, i couldn't agree more with my friend from arizona. it would -- it would really dishonor the service of chris stevens and the three other americans who served us in libya if their murders by these extremists led us to retrench and pull out of libya and stop supporting the new libyan government, democratically elecd, pull out of other parts of the arab world. that would be exactly the opp
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. >> the united states will not allow iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. we'll do what it takes to prevent that from happening. all options remain on the table. the president has been very clear and that includes the military option. >> shannon: our ambassador to the united nations says the u.s. will stand with israel and do what it takes to stop oran from developing a nuclear weapon, as israeli prime minister netanyahu says iran is 7 to 8 months away from being able to build a nuclear bomb and demands that the united states give a red line to iran. we start with peter doos gee senator john mechanic cane said an hour and-a-half that he thinks the united states is sing exactly the wrong main to the israelis about whether or not we will have their back, if iran gets closer to building a nuclear weapon. >> we keep tells the israelis not to attack, shouldn't we be telling the iranians that that we are with israel and they should back down. >> reporter: the u.s. bamdass dorto the u.n. says that the united states will do whatever it takes to prevent iran from acquiring the nuclear weapon and the
outgoing mexican president felipe calderon on his country's relations with the united states. >> president obama held a campaign rally in milwaukee over the weekend, one month before early voting begins in this battleground state of wisconsin. [cheers and applause] >> this was the president's first visit to the state since february. a recent quinnipiac university/new york times/cbs poll of likely voters in wisconsin found president obama leading mitt romney 51-45%. this is about half an hour. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> hello, wisconsin! [cheers and applause] oh! hi! you guys sound like you're fired up already! [cheers and applause] it is good to be back in milwaukee! [cheers and applause] first of all, it's good to be back because this is the closest i've been the home in a couple of months -- [cheers and applause] i was thinking about hopping on the freeway and just driving on down. you know, hour and a half, maybe a little shorter with a motorcade, you know? [laughter] i am also glad to be in milwaukee because before i came out here, i was able to have an
. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the presiding officer: the clerk will read a communication to the senate. the clerk: washington, d.c, september 21, 2012. to the senate: under the provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable richard blumenthal, a senator from the state of connecticut, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader smed. mr. reid: i had move to proceed to calendar number 504. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: motion to proceed to calendar number 504, s. 3525, a bill to protect and enhance opportunities for recreational hunting, fish, and shooting and for other purposes. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: the next hour will be equally divided between the two leader leaders who are their designees.
the mourners as the bodies of the u.s. ambassador and others killed in libya return to the united states. and mitt romney ramps up his criticism of the president again as the latest polls show him falling behind in several crucial states. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> but we begin with these live pictures. look at this. this is tahrir square in cairo. these are live pictures coming in not far from the united states embassy. once again, the protests escalating even as we speak. earlier in the day it had been relatively -- keyword, relatively, quiet. now seems to be escalating for some reason. our own ben wedeman is on the ground for us. we're going to be going to him shortly. at the same time as these scenes are unfolding, there also have been frightening scenes of violence and hatred directed at the united states and others around the region. it's spreading. and u.s. officials are very worried. sources tell me they're especially concerned about today's penetration of the united states embassy in tunisia and the reports that the american school was actually burned.
of pressure when it comes to this. not only from the united states, but also from its own people. now, whether these people that are detained are really involved in the attack or have links to this extremist group is something that we'll have to see and see what kind of reaction we see from the extremists too. >> do we have any idea if they're related or affirmative actionated with al qaeda? there's a lot of talk about that yesterday, the possibility that that was the organization. >> not much has been revealed by the government by this group, but what we do know, suzanne, is this is not an isolated incident. over the past few months we have seen an uptick in similar attacks targeting western interests. the u.s. consulate itself was targeted in an attack back in june when a bomb detonated outside the embassy. those attacks taken place in benghazi was targeted by a extremist group, it was called the brigades. this is a true al qaeda group. we also do know that there are groups with links direct links to al qaeda that operate in the eastern part of the country. >> what is the security situation
that are going on. resentment over the failure of the united states to act more forcefully in syria. the contest, the intramural contest between elements of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the more radical elements of the islamic extremists who are trying to hijack the revolution away from the moderate muslim brotherhood, which is part of the problem. there is this residual belief that there are americans still at war with islam and those who want to burn the koran. there's still this gulf of misunderstanding between what arabs actually believe the united states feels about the role of islam in the middle east and what actually is taking place. there are so many cross currents it's almost impossible to put your finger on one or two things. the bottom line however, is that america's standing in the region has deteriorated for a variety of reasons that would take a book to quantify at this point. >> marc, there's been a huge change in tone on the part of the egyptian government i would say since president obama's call to president morsi the other day. morsi comes down and calls the protesters
, president of the united states of america. >> mr. president, mr. secretary general, fellow delegates, ladies and gentleman, i would like to begin today by telling you about an american named chris stevens. chris was born in a town called grass valley, california, the son of a lawyer and a musician. as a young man, chris joined the peace corps, and taught english in morocco. and he came to love and respect the people of north africa and the middle east. he would carry that commitment throughout his life. as a diplomat, he worked from egypt to syria, from saudi arabia to libya. he was known for walking the streets of the cities where he worked -- tasting the local food, meeting as many people as he could, speaking arabic, listening with a broad smile. chris went to benghazi in the early days of the libyan revolution, arriving on a cargo ship. as america's representative, he helped the libyan people as they coped with violent conflict, cared for the wounded, and crafted a vision for the future in which the rights of all libyans would be respected. and after the revolution, he supported the birt
are furious with the united states -- if you talk to the pakistanis, we want the opportunity, and we want that kind of social link. it would help to build ties with the united states, and put a lot more of our concentration into society where the face of society is the face of your neighbor, the engineer who works in a ditch, the face of a student, the face of your child who has come to america, etc.. our focus on what pakistan is. i am not sure that is going to be possible in the next two years, and this is my second point. i will get back to the international element in a minute. i think that it is right for us to make sure that we focus on the issue of the counterinsurgency issues that we have. we have to deal with that correctly. we have to deal with al qaeda. we have to do with international terrorism. until 2014, it is unlikely in my mind that we can have a major change. that does not mean we cannot do our hallmark. it does not mean we cannot get, for example, the dynamic, philanthropic sector of pakistan to work with the thorough -- very dynamic philanthropic sector in the states,
. what has the attention of analysts that the egyptian prime minister morsi pushed the united states for the release of the blibd sheikh, releasing demonstrations at the same site of the u.s. embassy. they tell fox that the egyptian group takes its name from the omar al rack man from the blind sheikh. >> inspired by the first world trade center bombings some it is a group that has been around a long time. it has some staying power clearly since the early '90s and it is a group we have looked at in the past, we have tracked in the past and we'll continue to ask questions in relation to this particular event to see if there is any connection. >> reporter: there the question is whether there is some degree of coordination or whether the demonstration we're seeing like those in yemen this morning are spontaneous. one group of demonstrators feeding off another. the second question is whether the governments that are relatively weak will have the ability to offer the security the united states needs for its embassies in those countries. congressman rogers told fox a pressing question is wh
not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country to see. the bush administration banned the media from showing those dignified transfer ceremonies as the invasion of iraq started in 2003. and they kept the policy in place throughout george w. bush's time in office. as the country waged two of the longest wars in our history. it was not until the new president replaced george w. bush that the ban was rescinded. on thursday, february 26th, 2009, just five weeks after president barack obama was inaugurated, the defense department lifted the ban and one week after the ban was lifted, the following thursday, the media was allowed to cover that solemn return ceremony for the first time in a long time. and maybe it is because we did go so long as a country without seeing images like this that we are a little roc
and grant their families peace and solace, and may god continue to bless the united states of america. >> greater love hath no man than this. that a man lay down his life for his friends. the flag they served under now carries them home. may god bless the memory of these men who laid down their lives for us all. may god watch over your families and all who loved them. and may god bless these united states of america. >> at this incredibly somber ceremony at andrews air force base today, remarks from both secretary of state hillary clinton and president obama at a time when both mr. obama and mrs. clinton as head of the state department, when they have to do things like addressing the nation while also managing in a hands-on way what is an ongoing and significant crisis for the country. protests at u.s. embassies grew and spread today. in egypt, in iraq, in india, in bangladesh, in turkey, in pakistan, in kuwait, in syria, where you might think they'd have other things on their minds. afghanistan, malaysia, nigeria, in lebanon where a kentucky fried chicken restaurant was torched. in t
americans assassinated by radical islamists. their bodies returned to the united states. a solemn ceremony with president obama and secretary of state clinton. among those honoring the murdered americans at andrews air force base earlier today. >> mrs. clinton praising the murdered americans for their courage and sacrifice to our country. the people of egypt and libya and tunisia did not trade the tyranny of a dictator for the tierney of a mob. lou: a precisely timed two-part operation under cover of more than 200 demonstrators angry at an anti-mohammed movie. the protesters stormed the consulate, armed militants traveled to a nearby safe house to attack the evacuated americans. libyan officials say the people within the governments own security forces to stop the terrorists to the safe houses location. the unrest is spreading beyond the region. violence erupted in tunisia and the german embassy set afire. american fast food restaurants also torched. demonstrations in afghanistan. palestinians and in jerusalem protests in america. american flags were burned outside the embassy. president o
not to united states policy for the administration, not the american people. it is in response to a video. lou: the romney campaign called the reaction to the violence in the middle east amateur hour. we are taking all of that up tonight with the author of "the new york times" book, the amateur. bin laden unit chief, michael carrier. and christopher hahn and jedediah bila joins us as well. my next guest says protest demonstrations and murders is the latest episode, he says, in the process by which the united states is being driven from the arab world. joining us now is head of the bin laden tracking unit, michael. good to have you with us. it is a peculiar moment to say the least. to hear the spokesman for the presidency but this is about a movie and has nothing to do with u.s. policies or this administration. what is your reaction? >> well, the country is out of control. it is out of control economically, but in the middle east, we have been out of control for 15 years. we have not had an enemy in the middle east or anywhere in the world that has been so clear about what motivates them since
president of the united states of america. thank you, everybody, and god bless you. thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you. >> welcome to "newsroom international." i'm suzanne malveaux. here's what's going on. protests erupting across the arab world. anti-american anger is spreading. since the attack the u.s. consulate in libya and the anniversary of 9/11, we are now seeing protests spreading across the region. there are several flash points right now. i want to get right to it. we begin with some breaking news, however. we are learning now that president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton will be atteing what is being called the transfer of remains ceremony. it is marking the return of the remains to the united states of those that were killed in benghazi, libya. president clinton will be delivering brief remarks. we're told that the first lady will be at that ceremony. this is supposed to happen about 2:15 this afternoon at andrew's air force base. let's go to tunisia. no north africa protesters have breached the u.s. embassy, the capital in tunisia. our journalist is
of remains ceremony. it is marking the return of the remains to the united states of those that were killed in benghazi, libya. president clinton will be delivering brief remarks. we're told that the first lady will be at that ceremony. this is supposed to happen about 2:15 this afternoon at andrew's air force base. let's go to tunisia. no north africa protesters have breached the u.s. embassy, the capital in tunisia. our journalist is joining us from tunisia, and i understand we lost that connection. we're going to get back to him and go on to another story, and many of the protests. what we are seeing here. we mention this -- this is the black flag. this is being carried by people in the crowd representing islam. it is called the shahada, the first pillar of islam, written in white letters. it says, quote, "there is no god but allah and muhammad is his messenger." it is an affirmation of faith. we want to bring in the crowds of angry egyptians are fighting with police in cairo right now. their anger aimed in part at the united states. you see those pictures. those people are climbing the
vowed to bring justice to the killers in this libyan attack. to the united states condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. make no mistake. we will work with the libyan government to bring to justice the killers who have attacked our people. since our founding, the united states has been a nation that respects all faiths. we reject denigrating the religious police of others. there is absolutely no type of excuse for this type of senseless violence. megyn: joining me now we have two guests. bill, thank you for being here. i want to talk to you as a former communications person. about the response we have seen this morning from the president and from governor romney. >> it is a very difficult time. i thought the president's remarks looked a little devoid of passion. governor romney is getting a lot of criticism for his position with the president, but i think he is right to make a point. the world is a very dangerous place. when people think they can attack america with tyranny. megyn: why would our state department and embassy be coming out with p
. >> since our founding the united states has been a nation that respects all faiths. we reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others but there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence, none. the world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts. jon: so where does the story go from here. greg palkot is following for it live from london. greg? >> reporter: we're getting more and more information about the tragic events in libya as the day goes on. first who was involved along with ambassador to libya, chris stevens. the information officer there in libya for the united states, sean smith. as well as two other americans. possibly security. not to be confirmed yet. still be identified. they were killed in or around the consulate in benghazi that happened overnight. stevens was a career diplomat. played a key role in the tumultuous period in libya. the type of diplomat we come time and time again. president clinton --. this was result of attack by islamists protesting this film made in the u.s., critical of the muslim prophet muhamm
to think about syria. no member of the united states government will ever be able to get a fair shake on syrian media, and we have a terrific ambassador to syria named robert ford. what he began doing was his way of communicating with the syrian public since he was being blacked out of traditional media in syria was to publish on facebook. a lot of what he shared both with the syrian people as well as with the out like the the outside world came from postings he made on facebook -- as well as with the outside world. demonstrating atrocities by the assad regime. with the state department actually published that content was over facebook. >> alec ross, in a recent article for cnn, you wrote that the 21st century is a terrible time to be a control freak. and it is. we live in a time where the kind of control that a ceo or secretary of state might have had 15, 20, 25 years ago -- the kind of control that that leader had then is gone, and it is not coming back. it used to be the case that most people got their news from the one newspaper that they read in the morning and the one tv news br
states has now asked a private entity in the united states to review a film that was put on youtube. so government is supposed to protect free. see instead, it's asking them to look at a video. what is next? if we give them the excuse that the video, we understand why you rioted and killed our ambassador and three others, because of a video, then what happens when something really serious happens? >> kimberly: it sounds like a justification, which is the problem to be honest with you. >> bob: there is no connection between the video and the terrorists. >> dana: that is what they're saying. >> bob: it's doing a somber ceremony. i don't know where you get the twitter -- did he go beand they casket? >> dana: no, the campaign did. >> greg: bob is saying these are separate incidents and the terrorist attack is not about the movie. they conflateed it. not us. they conflated it. i want to know where are all the freedom of speech celebrity filmmakers who were out there and defended the crucifixion in the glass of urine? do we remember that? somehow they're silent about this. >> kimberly: now we
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